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6/9/21  1:42 pm
Commenter: Anonymous

Agree
 

There are a significant amount of client's in treatment who share that the interlock device is too expensive, and too restrictive. Clients reports that the devices are very sensitive and they have to pay for any "retest" or challenges that they have with the system. Why the system would charge the client for failure of the interlock device is unknown to me. I have worked in the addiction field for many years and hear nothing but negative things about the accuracy of the interlock devices. This does need to be addressed and soon. 

CommentID: 99012
 

9/5/21  12:33 pm
Commenter: David Hites, The Hites Research Group

VASAP Corruption
 

VASAP's mission is to reduce the number of drunk drivers on the road, but their goal is to have as many ignition interlock devices installed as possible by increasing the number of DUI arrests and convictions.  This dichotomy sets up a dangerous failing business model rife with potential for fraud.

As of July 1, 2021, Virginia no longer requires ignition interlock devices to be alcohol specific. The devices are now actually required to use non-alcohol-specific technology, which causes failed readings for methanol-based windshield washer fluid and potentially other alcohols.  The readings can no longer be trusted as solely alcohol (liquor), and the device readings cannot be used in court.

The petitioner has requested that specific records be kept to ensure the integrity of the program.  For the past three years, the Commission on VASAP has categorically denied more than a dozen petitions, all which would have, at a minimum, upheld program integrity.  

In that time, ASAPs have continually committed fraud by profiting due to their negligence.  

They have taken money for services not rendered and ignored customer complaints and inquiries by refusing to return phone calls or emails.  Their standard procedure is to extend clients' ignition interlock time requirement without giving the client the benefit of a hearing to defend themselves against false interlock violation accusations.  This is denial of due process.

Neither VASAP nor any ASAPs will refund clients who were overcharged due to case manager/director negligence.  The statistics the petitioner is asking to be kept will allow for indicators of fraud that are not currently available or tracked.  Tracking these statistics will also allow for a cross comparison of all ASAPs to get an average number of failed ignition interlock readings and determine which ASAPs are above or below average.

In my opinion, VASAP, the ASAPs and the interlock companies are engaging in racketeering by stealing money from ASAP clients that was unearned due to case manager/director negligence.

A police investigation is currently being conducted in Henrico County regarding John Tyler ASAP.  This ASAP broke the law when, by VASAP's admission, 44 client ignition interlock violations were submitted for secondary review (all at once) that were at least 2-5 months old, with one being from 2019.  By law, the ASAP has 5 working days to notify the client and court of a violation.  These are not civil matters, they are criminal.  Justice delayed is justice denied.

If the Commissioners deny this petition, its voting members will once again affirm that they are nothing more than a rubber stamp for whatever the staff recommends, which has always been to deny any petition.  In four years attending the VASAP quarterly meetings, I have never seen a single Commissioner dissent, however one Commissioner did leave a meeting before a vote and never returned ... ever, to another meeting.  

Do any of the current Commissioners have backbone enough to stand against fraud or will they stand with corruption?  Who will advocate for the ASAP victims who have been overcharged through no fault of their own?  My guess is, based on past behavior, none of you.

I will continue to fight for the rights of Virginians who are being exploited by this program.

Dave Hites

US Navy (retired)

CommentID: 99908
 

9/10/21  5:14 am
Commenter: Cynthia Hites, The Hites Research Group & Virginia Ignition Interlock Forum

Interlock Installs and Failed Readings - The Statistics Must Be Kept
 
The deception perpetuated by VASAP is that the interlock device “measures” only alcohol. That's what VASAP wants everyone to believe.
 
IIDs measure electricity, but the fuel cell isn't able to measure any substance; it's incapable of distinguishing between hydroxyls. 
 
There are hundreds of compounds detectable by the fuel cell, and IID readings can't arbitrarily be labeled sorbitol, isopropanol, ethanol, or any substance.
 
Interlocks are PBTs, preliminary breath tests, and their readings are knowingly being mislabeled as ethanol and misused.
 
An analogy would be someone using a metal detector that’s capable of detecting (but not distinguishing between) metals, yet claiming every reading to be gold.  So we know the device most often detects rebar and tin cans, but we’re just gonna deem everything gold, every single time. 
 
Instead of recognizing the limited functionality of the interlock device as a simple hydroxyl detector, isopropanol readings are improperly deemed “ethanol”, and the electron measurement is being improperly deemed “BrAC”.  
 
The fuel cell has been elevated to a level of capability that is simply untrue. 
 
The State was totally sold a bill of goods and now that someone is explaining and exposing it, they are doubling down on deceit. 
 
The sober person with colorectal cancer is unknowingly producing the breath biomarker, propanol. “In multivariate analysis, propanol was significantly elevated in the cancer patients”.  
 
(Also of note, propanol has a chemical composition of C3H8O, which is only 3 atoms different than ethanol, C2H6O). 
 
VASAP is stealing money from the sober person who doesn’t know he has lung cancer, and is actually breathing ethanol, which several recent studies have shown to be the number one potential breath biomarker for lung cancer. 
 
VASAP is punishing sober people daily because they won’t admit they’re grossly misusing a very unsophisticated instrument. 
 
The statistics and metrics requested in this petition MUST be kept for proper evaluation of the program.  There's no excuse to remain ignorant and if this petition is denied, it's because the data collected will absolutely ruin the assumed efficacy of the IID program.
 
It's unethical and the end product is a  racketeering operation, and an administrative, unconstitutional clusterfork that's occurring statewide.
 
VASAP, its ASAPs, directors and case workers are operating an organized crime racket, using a known, inherently inaccurate alcohol sensor, accusing people with bogus readings, allowing IID companies to extort reset fees, and then denying citizens' due process by "restarting" people without benefit of a revocation hearing solely based on misinterpreted IID data. 
 
The only way to truly assess the integrity of this program is to compare the number of installs to number of failed readings, with special attention paid to rolling retest violations. VASAP must keep the stats requested, and I can tell you right now it's gonna be very, very ugly.
 
Pennsylvania keeps these stats and in 2016 it was revealed that 5,599 interlocks were installed and 53,083 failed readings were registered.  That's 9.5 failed readings per device and when these simple stats are kept in the Commonwealth, I believe Virginia's numbers are going to be equally abysmal. 
 
You cannot criminalize the readings from a fuel cell, it's just a PBT and penalizing sober people for medical conditions and false positives is super, super unethical. 
 
VASAP has zero integrity and actively engages in deception and fraud. As long as the fuel cell, and it's predictable stream of "false positives" is allowed to operate, this State-run racket will persist.
 
VASAP and it's ASAP franchises are a criminal enterprise that need to be investigated thoroughly by law enforcement. 
 
Commissioners, I've watched you all very closely over the past four years and you've totally failed the citizens of Virginia.  The only oversight for VASAP is myself and my husband, not this ragtag Commission. 
 
The VASAP staff is adept at covering up crime, and the spineless Commissioners are adept at being spoonfed manure with no complaint. 
 
Commissioners, you are all failing the citizens of this great Commonwealth. 
 
Keep these stats and you'll understand the fuel cell readings are garbage. It's a lockout device not an EBT DataMaster. 
 
Wake up and do your jobs. You're going to have to rock the boat and ask some tough questions to realize what the heII that is happening under your watch. 
 
I can help you. Just axtually golook at all the data published on Virginia Ignition Interock Forum. There are scores of photos to help elucidate. I can help this Agency rethink how to achieve the program mission without harming thousands of innocent people.
 
I'm registered for the annual 2021 Breath Biopsy Confernce at Cambridge and you should be, too. https://www.owls tone medical.com/science-technology/voc-biomarkers/
 
Using fuel cell technology in this capacity is grossly unethical, and when breath biopsy sensors replace cancer screenings and colonoscopy, it's going to make this entire State program look stupid because I've literally been explaining the truth to you for 4 years and as fast as you're running from it, you cannot hide.
 
Please keep all the statistics I've requested in this petition, as it's the only way to hold
the Agency accountable and begin to develop any program integrity.  
 
As always,
Cynthia Hites 



CommentID: 99919