Virginia Regulatory Town Hall
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Virginia Employment Commission
 
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Virginia Employment Commission
 
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Interstate and Multistate Claimants [16 VAC 5 ‑ 70]
Action 16 VAC 5-70 Amendments for Modernization
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Comment Period Ended on 1/4/2023
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12/22/22  1:24 pm
Commenter: Martin Wegbreit, Esq., Central Virginia Legal Aid Society

Filing initial, continued, and/or weekly claims
 

These comments are submitted on behalf of Central Virginia Legal Aid Society (CVLAS) which provides free civil legal aid to low-income people in Richmond, Petersburg, Charlottesville, and the surrounding cities and counties.  I am currently the CVLAS Director of Litigation located in Richmond, Virginia.  I have been a legal aid attorney since I graduated law school in 1978, and have been practicing in Virginia since 1980, first in Southwest Virginia and in Central Virginia since 2005. 

My comments are based upon my experience over the past 41 years as an attorney representing claimants for unemployment compensation in Virginia.  In the course of that time, I have represented thousands of clients in connection with claims for unemployment compensation in Virginia.  Since May 2022, I have participated in quarterly meetings between top officials at the VEC and legal aid attorneys throughout Virginia who handle unemployment compensation.  Based on those experiences, I have these comments:

(1) Proposed 16 VAC 5-60-10(A), 16 VAC 5-60-10(C), and 16 VAC 5-70-10(E), all provide that initial, continued, and/or weekly claims may be filed by telephone, Internet, or by other means at the discretion of the commission.  This change should not be implemented until the Claimant Self-Service System (CSSS) has been configured so all but a tiny minority (less than 1%) of claimants have unfettered access to it.  In our quarterly meetings with the VEC, legal aid has been informed that the “fraud detection” for the CSSS has been set at a level high enough to keep out fraudsters.  Unfortunately, it also keeps out too many legitimate claimants.  At these quarterly meetings, top VEC officials have stated that initially only 20% of claimants could access the CSSS, which slowly increased to 67% as of their last report in September 2022.  This is unacceptably low.  The CSSS should allow 99+ percent of claimants to successfully create an account, create a username & password, and log in.  Unless and until this occurs, filing claims by telephone and other methods should be maintained.

CommentID: 206772
 

1/4/23  4:04 pm
Commenter: Pat Levy-Lavelle * Legal Aid Justice Center

Problems with Proposed Regulatory Drafts
 

NOTE:  This comment substantially parallels one left regarding a separate regulatory action, re 16 VAC 5-60: Benefits.  See, https://townhall.virginia.gov/L/ViewStage.cfm?stageid=9615   

 

(1) Proposed changes to 16 VAC 5-60-10(A), 16 VAC 5-60-10(C), and 16 VAC 5-70-10(E) provide that initial, continued, and/or weekly claims may be filed by telephone, Internet, or by other means at the discretion of the commission. 

 

As an initial matter, the multiple references to “or” should be changed to “and” – such that multiple means of claims filing plainly and unambiguously remain available to claimants. 

 

This is particularly important now in view of the challenges that many people continue to face in attempting to use the Claimant Self-Service System (CSSS).  Many bona fide claimants remain locked out of that system, such that access by telephone and other means remains critically important.

 

Moreover, over the longer term, and even after CSSS is made accessible widely to claimants, it remains important to keep in mind that many claimants lack technology or training, face other barriers in making initial and continued/weekly benefit claims by Internet (and even by telephone), or need additional assistance. 

 

The VEC establishing the Office of the Unemployment Compensation Ombudsman, and creating a team of 14 customer advocates located at Virginia Career Works Centers throughout Virginia (as outlined in the VEC’s November 1, 2022 report to the General Assembly), is both a welcome development and an acknowledgment of this need.

 

Moreover, there is indication that moving away from in-person filing options will impose disproportionate harms on certain populations.  Studies, reflecting on UI modernization, have noted that Black and Latinx adults, and disabled adults, have distinctly lower rates of access to technology and Internet connectivity, and lower rates of digital literacy, than white and non-disabled adults.  https://www.newamerica.org/pit/reports/unpacking-inequities-unemployment-insurance/the-digital-divide-and-ui-modernization-states-moves-to-online-applications-worsen-accessibility (September 17, 2020).  Additionally, roughly 23% of U.S. adults (or 48 million people) struggle to read.  https://www.propublica.org/article/literacy-adult-education-united-states (December 14, 2022).  Online and phone help from the VEC is unlikely to be of use to people who cannot read or write sufficiently to complete applications or appeals, or follow written directions to (for example) provide documents – whether on paper or online.  Lastly, the inability to file and maintain claims in person at local offices may also adversely impact persons with disabilities, depending on the nature of the impairment, which could run afoul of the reasonable accommodation mandate of the ADA and related laws. 

 

To that end, and in addition to other modes of access (e.g. telephone, Internet), it is important that people be able to file initial and continued/weekly claims at workforce, adjudication, or one-stop centers.  Proposed changes seemingly eliminating this option should be rescinded.  This is a matter of equitable access for underserved people. 

 

Moreover, eliminating this option also runs afoul of DOL requirements, as set forth in UIPL 11-18, Change 1, at Attachment I-5.  The document notes that one prerequisite for utilizing UI modernization is that a state must ensure that:

 

“Alternative Access Options are made available in compliance with ETA guidance, including alternative access options for individuals with barriers to filing by phone or online, such as those with Limited English Proficiency, disabilities, literacy issues (including computer literacy), and computer access issues;”

 

https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ETA/advisories/UIPL/2020/UIPL_11-18_Change_1.pdf  (July 16, 2020)

CommentID: 206826
 

1/4/23  5:37 pm
Commenter: Flannery O'Rourke, Virginia Poverty Law Center

Response to Proposal
 

Proposed changes to 16 VAC 5-60-10(A), 16 VAC 5-60-10(C), and 16 VAC 5-70-10(E) provide that initial, continued, and/or weekly claims may be filed by telephone, Internet, or by other means at the discretion of the commission.

The option to file initial claims at field offices (16 VAC 5-60-10(A)) and to file claims by mail (16 VAC 5-60-10(C) and 16 VAC 5-70-10(E)) must be expressly maintained because: (1) the current telephone and online systems are not reliably accessible; and (2) many claimants require alternate methods of filing due to resource limitations and/or communication needs.

Claimants regularly report problems with the current telephone and online systems. This issue was expressly discussed at the November 9, 2022 meeting of the Commission on Unemployment Compensation - Unemployment Insurance Subcommittee in which Commissioner Roth presented. As of September, the VEC reported that nearly one third of login attempts to the Claimant Self Service Portal were unsuccessful. At the November 9 meeting, the VEC was unable to confirm how many legitimate claimants can access the online systems. The telephone system is also unreliable. The automated phone system was nonfunctional at least one day in the past month. Moreover, as of November, persons requiring assistance faced average hold times that were more than four times as long as the prior spring. (See Agency Reports and VEC Report to Unemployment Insurance Subcommittee.) This is especially problematic when claimants also continue to report issues receiving necessary mailed communications from the VEC (including the pin numbers to access the telephone system). Consequently, the telephone and online systems are not reliable enough to be the sole methods of filing claims.

Moreover, there are many claimants for whom alternate forms of filing are necessary for communication or resource needs. First, some claimants may not have reliable telephone or online access, or the ability provide other documents to the VEC (such as by fax). For example, Broadband Now’s 2021 study reports an estimated 935,208 Virginians without access to broadband.  Filing claims by mail or in person may be the only options for those claimants. Second, the in-person option for initial filing must be expressly maintained to create a safety net for systemic issues with VEC communications and to accommodate individual’s communication needs. As the JLARC report notes, both the VEC online system and mailed VEC communications contain language that is difficult to understand. In recognition of this issue, in 2022 the General Assembly passed legislation requiring that the VEC develop a Resiliency Plan to, in part, address communication issues. (See Va. Code Section 60.2-111 (D).) In furtherance of this requirement, at the November 9 meeting, Commissioner Roth reported that the VEC is undergoing a massive effort to revise all communications into “plain language.” However, this initiative is far from complete. Thus, communications from the VEC may be confusing to most claimants and inadequate for claimants with additional communication needs. While some claimants can seek clarification by phone, as noted, the phone system is unreliable. Further, this may be insufficient for some claimants’ communication needs. Thus, it is critical to allow for alternative forms of filing.

Consequently, options to file claims at field offices and by mail must be expressly maintained.

CommentID: 206828