years ago if i remember correctly when charitable gaming was first starting the vma with lodges support hired a lobbyist to get rules set, no one could make any progress thru discussions with charitable gaming. lobbyist was hired and that is how we have what we have today. lobbyist can negotiate thru our political representatives and have rules passed thru law and have approval of governor, that is how we got 10% and other guidelines approved.  you are wasting your time otherwise. one representative for vma supports 30%, that is not enough. we need to ask to stay status we are at and get approval to pay bills, gaming companies would keep their 50%i was a 24 year administrator so i am familiar with charitable gaming and laws, push for lobbyist.