Invasive training procedures.  I am both a PT and L.Ac. can someone explain why it takes MD's 200-300 course to perform motor point and/or acupuncture needling but a PT with nearly zero invasive training can do it after 16.   I have sat in on dry needling courses taught to PTs and caught them teaching acupuncture.  Also how to bill it illegally, add E-stim, and use acupuncture points and located them incorrectly.  I have all of this on tape and video.  Now from PT side of it.  We are trained and skilled enough to perform these procedures but only with a MD recommended course is my suggestion unless you feel you can with confidence explain to an MD why you should be able to do these procedures with only 16 hours and why they require 200-300 hours.  Food for thought.  Im sorry fellow PTs but 16 hours is not sufficient training and I have yet to see malpractice insurance for PTs that covers this.  So if you are performing a modality outside your malpractice how can you possibly be performing it in your clinic?  Patient safety.  Please inform your patients how much formal training you have doing this.  If the board that passes dry needling in any state can give a proper explanation why a profession with minimal invasive training procedures can be issued license to do such procedures after 16 hours, two days, I would like to hear it.  Shame on any board that passes such license to perform this after two days.  Then the next question if PTs can do it after two days why can't MDs?  I hope that the board weighs in on all aspects of patient safety here and is not the product of political bias.