I greatly support of board certified licensure for Music Therapists. However, 18VAC140-30-90 Standards of practice section B13 should not be included at all. This is because conversion therapy should not be practiced by anyone, especially board certified music therapists. Conversion therapy is a pseudoscientific dangerous practice which are connected to depression, PTSD, and suicide, according to researchers at Stanford Medicine. Musical therapy is a clinical profession. It should not be professionalized with licensure yet include dangerous unprofessional practices simultaneously.